Tue 19 Jun 2007
The 10 Best, from 10 Years Ago.
Posted by jporro under 100 Years... 100 Movies , 100 Years... 100 Movies - 10th Anniversary Edition[34] Comments
As the eve is upon us, and we get ready for (what could be?) a whole new list, I think it is fitting to review AFI’s list from 10 years ago. Click on the artwork for a different take on each film.
From www.filmsite.org:
The fresh, sophisticated, and classic masterpiece, Citizen Kane (1941), is probably the world’s most famous and highly-rated film, with its many remarkable scenes and performances, cinematic and narrative techniques and experimental innovations (in photography, editing, and sound).
#2 CASABLANCA (1942)
From Turner Classic Movies Online Database www.tcmdb.com:
In the six decades since its 1942 release, Casablanca has grown into such a legend that it almost transcends mere cinema. Its lines of dialogue can be quoted by people who have not even seen the film: “Here’s looking at you, kid,” “I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship,” and the oft misquoted “Play it, Sam.”
#3 THE GODFATHER (1972)
From www.rogerebert.com:
What is important is loyalty to the family. Much is said in the movie about trusting a man’s word, but honesty is nothing compared to loyalty. Michael doesn’t even trust Tom Hagen (Robert Duvall) with the secret that he plans to murder the heads of the other families. The famous “baptism massacre” is tough, virtuoso filmmaking: The baptism provides him with an airtight alibi, and he becomes a godfather in both senses at the same time.
#4 GONE WITH THE WIND (1939)
From Barbara Shulgasser, SFGate.com:
The movie plays its role in movie history, becoming one of the great box-office performers in the pre-Steven Spielberg and George Lucas days. The search to find Selznick’s ideal Scarlett O’Hara, the willful Southern belle who would destroy several Southern gentlemen in pursuit of the man she loved but who didn’t love her, was the talk of Hollywood.
#5 LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)
By Rita Kempley, washingtonpost.com:
The film’s genius is its marriage of intimate portrait and big-screen epic. T.E. Lawrence, a repressed 29-year-old British mapmaker, becomes a desert Napoleon, worshiped as a self-proclaimed demigod. His story is an atavistic “Revenge of the Nerds,” every angry adolescent’s dream come true. It is also the tragedy of a troubled scholar whose repressed violence spills out in the seminal sword-rattling of the battle scenes.
#6 THE WIZARD OF OZ (1939)
From the flickfilosopher.com:
The transition from the sepia tones of Dorothy’s Kansas to the Technicolor world of Oz is a reminder of how glorious color film must have been when it was new — and the movie, sepia and color sections alike, looks absolutely stunning in the new DVD release, digitally remastered for the film’s 60th anniversary.
#7 THE GRADUATE (1967)
From Variety.com:
Miss Bancroft, feline and slinky in a manner very much like Lauren Bacall, is excellent, as is Miss Ross, an exciting, fresh actress from the Universal stable, who has a long career ahead of her. Hoffman is perfect in his role. William Daniels and Elizabeth Wilson play his parents in top fashion. Small, but well-cast, supporting contingent includes co-scripter Henry, as a room clerk.
#8 ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)
by J. Hoberman, Village Voice:
Always on the verge of unshed tears, his face a smooth mask of tragedy, Brando’s Terry is as soulfully stupid as he is beautiful—a male Marilyn Monroe (who achieved sex deity status in 1954). No other actor ever made more poignant use of what, pace John Steinbeck, might be called the Lenny factor. Terry is a sort of brute yet vulnerable animal trembling on the brink of consciousness. In class terms, he embodies what culture critic Harold Rosenberg once called “the pathos of the proletariat.”
#9 SCHINDLER’S LIST (1993)
By Carmel Gallagher, from bbc.co.uk:
The film finishes on a powerful note in present day with the real Schindler survivors and their descendants visiting his grave. It is the final reminder that this is a true story of one man’s bravery and that in “saving one life, you save the entire world”.
#10 SINGIN’ IN THE RAIN (1952)
From reelviews.com:
Singin’ in the Rain is considered by many people to be among the best Hollywood musicals of all time. For those who have seen the movie, the reason for this is not difficult to understand. Watching Singin’ in the Rain is an exuberant, magical experience – a journey deep into the heart of feel-good territory. Sitting through the film’s 102 minutes is like ingesting a mood-altering drug. It’s the perfect antidote to the blues and the blahs, and a way to bolster, enhance, and extend a natural high.
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June 19th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
I really cannot argue with these selections.
June 20th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
I think Schindler’s List should be much higher, maybe second or third. It truly is a remarkable movie.
June 20th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
I was disappointed that the new, downloadable list failed to say what movies had dropped out of the top 100, despite the email saying it would.
Still, it looks like a pretty good list overall. I’m glad to see Fellowship of the Ring up there ahead of any other LOTR film. On the other hand, I’d actually never heard of Swing Time before now, so I can only assume Fred Astaire has been doing some intense marketing these last few years…
June 21st, 2007 at 12:37 am
I thought this list was a lot worse than the last one. Some majorly good films got omitted. How did Amadeus go from #50 to not being on it period? How did Wuthering Heights, From Here to Eternity, A Place in the Sun and others get booted for the likes of Titanic? There is no way Titanic is a BETTER film than any of those aformentioned titles. Just because it as a box office success doesn’t mean it’s a good or significant film on the whole. The dialogue is terrible. And whoever it was that labeled Titanic as the new Casablanca made me shake my head. jack and Rose are NOT the next Rick and Ilsa.
Another thing. I was extremely confused about certain placement for films, and the fact that the commentary was 10 years old on a lot of them didnt make sense. If AFI is going to rank things, at least provide fresh commentary to support their choices.
As for the top 10, what a bunch of crap. How is Raging Bull a better film than Gone with the Wind? Its not. Also, no offense but Citizen Kane should not be #1 twice in a row. It may have ben technically innovative, but the story is so boring. A #1 film of all time should have the technical aspecats as well as the entertinament aspects, and in my opinion Citizen kane is sorely lacking in the latter.
One more thing. What on earth was Intollerance doing on this list? I wouldnt even rank it in a top 500 list let alone top 50. If you’re going to remove DW Griffith’s biggest success (Birth of a Nation), don’t replace it with his biggest FLOP (Intollerance). That movie definately has not stood the test of time, just as many on that list haven’t. And isn’t longevity one of the most important bits of criteria for selecting these films?
‘m going to pretend this special never aired, because the old list is a lot more credible and worthy in my eyes
no love,
me.
June 21st, 2007 at 4:37 am
Although I agree with a lot of the selected movies I get the feeling that most of the members are 60 / 70+
I don’t think I see a film produced the last decade.
June 21st, 2007 at 5:04 am
Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow was the first image of the program, yet not mentioned anywhere in the show. Same with Little Miss Sunshine – why were they in the preview if not part of the top 100?
June 21st, 2007 at 5:09 am
How is it that “The Ten Commandments” didn’t make the list at all? That was suprising to me. I was also disappointed to not see “The Green Mile” on there either.
June 21st, 2007 at 5:29 am
Frankly, the whole exercise of picking “best of all time” anything is strange. But I don’t see how you can consider “Gone With the Wind,” “Singing in the Rain” or “The Wizard of Oz” as best of anything. Sure, they are great, satisfying films to watch over and over again, but hardly the best films ever made. There are SO many others. Virtually anything by Hitchcock or Billy Wilder. Lots of John Ford films. What about “It Happened One Night?” “Sullivan’s Travels?” “The Philadelphia Story”? Not to mention a myriad of silent films. Are they best or the movies we love to love? I’d put “Sweet Smell of Success” up there somewhere, but no one will ever love it like “Casablanca.”
June 21st, 2007 at 5:37 am
I was surprized that Planet Of The Apes did not malke the list.
June 21st, 2007 at 5:56 am
I am very disappointed with the list this year. The AFI president, Jean Picker Firstenberg, made this comment: “American film has always reflected and, in many respects, defined who we are.”
According to this list, we are, apparently a bunch of white straight men going to war. While I understand the voters resonating with war pictures at this time, I still think it’s astounding to look at the American populations neglected by this list.
On the topic of race: Should the list be cheered for including Do the Right Thing at 96 and In Heat the of the Night at 75? Where was The Jazz Singer? Hotel Rwanda? Raisin in the Sun? Or the most shocking omission in my mind, Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? In that one, Poitier’s character is in the position of challenging racial perceptions on BOTH sides of the aisle. Who could forget him confronting his father, “you see yourself as a black man, while I see myself as a man.”? In fact, the highest ranking film to have dealt with black/white racial issues was To Kill a Mockingbird… in which the lead character is a white man.
And where were the women? Norma Rae (not even nominated), Erin Brockavich, Mildred Pierce, Thelma and Louise, The Accused (also not nominated), The Hours. We saw plenty of pictures about men redefining themselves and challenging their roles in society. All of the women we saw challenging roles (ex. All About Eve and Sunset Blvd) featured women who were insane or criminal or both.
I was also shocked by the missing gay perspective. Brokeback Mountain, Philadelphia (not nominated), Boys Don’t Cry (not nominated). I wouldn’t expect them all to make the list, but the omission of all gay characters is insulting. I’m especially bothered by Philadelphia being ignored. AIDS is the plague of this generation. Our attitudes toward relationships and sex have changed forever as a result.
Finally, two points. 1) I understand the importance of Charlie Chaplin – but 4 of his movies? Come on. 2) With all the war pictures, would it have killed them to throw a little Gandhi in there? Or have we forgotten about the power of the simple gesture?
June 21st, 2007 at 5:57 am
Unfortunately, I COULD argue with many of these selections. I have a feeling many of them were picked on “sentimental value” and not actual merit. My mistake was expecting “excellent film-making” to figure into a popularity contest list.
June 21st, 2007 at 6:06 am
The ’97 list was not perfect, but better than the ’07 list. Twenty-three films were dismissed from the original top 100, and though some from the lower 50 were on shaky ground from the start (Fargo, The Third Man, Dances with Wolves, etc.), I can’t grasp the rationale of dismissing Doctor Zhivago, Birth of a Nation, From Here to Eternity, Fantasia, Stagecoach, Mutiny on the Bounty or Patton. I can accept the trade-off between Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner for In the Heat of the Night, or My Fair Lady for Cabaret. But as much as I like Toy Story, there’s no trade-off with Fantasia – this movie was ground-breaking and a standard. I understand that ballots decide the list, but I hope the list doesn’t become a carousel for the flavor of the day. Also, how does The Searchers move up 84 spots (good movie, but not #12 or better than Stagecoach). The love affair with James Dean is gone with the exist of both Rebel Without a Cause and Giant. Only one film remains of teenage angst: American Graffiti (and I hope Saturday Night Fever joins the list). Some films in the current list will not last the test of time, but I guess I’ll have to wait 10 years to find out. On a side note: I have always thought that Deliverance should be on the top 100 – the struggle between right and wrong, man and nature; intellect versus brawn; and that music!; and some of the best lines in movie history. Check it out for yourself – the movie holds up.
June 21st, 2007 at 6:13 am
you should have posted what films fell off of the list as well
June 21st, 2007 at 7:20 am
I am really looking forward to the new list. I love the old classics with their dialogues, characters, sets, and ability to transport us to a different time and place. They reflect who we were as a society and a people. I wonder if the new list will contain more recent films or if the classics will maintain their relevance and position in our cultural iconography?
June 21st, 2007 at 7:45 am
The new list is great! I’m glad Giant and My Fair Lady got booted…I’m glad Yankee Doodle Dandy jumped up the list, but where’s Disney’s Beauty and the Beast?? It wasn’t the first full length animated movie (Snow White) or the first computer generated animation (Toy Story) but it still got a Best Movie nomination from the Academy…I can’t ever agree with Easy Rider being on there though with The Matrix and Jurassic Park being out there…
June 21st, 2007 at 7:49 am
I think lord of the rings: The Fellowship of the rings should have made the top ten. It was good to see it on the list of the top 100.
June 21st, 2007 at 7:55 am
Great list for the most part. I’m just sad that Amadeus didn’t make it this time! Also many, including myself, feel Brokeback Mountain should have been on the list as well.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:02 am
Just finished watching the new AFI 100 greatest Films list and I’m both fuming and smiling (as I suppose is the point of such lists).
Here are my initial thoughts….
I should preface that I liked the old list just fine. There were probably about 15 on that list that I could have done without, and a few of those omissions were remedied this time (most notably Do the Right Thing being added to the list)
BIGGEST GRIPE:
Both Birth of a Nation and The Jazz Singer where omitted. What?!?! Are you kidding me? Both deserve a permanent place on the list for historical value if nothing else. Griffith’s “Intolerance” was added to the list, I guess to replace Birth of a Nation, but c’mon, what a PC cop-out in my opinion.
Second Biggest: Rebel Without A Cause falls off the list entirely? What?
Close third: No Frankenstein?
BIGGEST CHEER:
City Lights leaping all the way to #11. One of the best movies ever, easily deserves to be in the top 20.
NOT SURE HOW I FEEL YET:
Buster Keaton’s The General joins the list for the FIRST time all the way up at #18. I totally think Keaton should be represented on the list, but that’s a big leap (especially without things like Rebel, Birth, and Jazz Singer)
The Searchers jumps way up the list – that’s ok with me, but Stagecoach falls off the list entirely?
Vertigo is WAY too high. Deserves to be on the list for sure, but top 10? Especially if The Graduate falls off?
I was bummed that Lawrence of Arabia fell out of the top 5, but glad that Singing in the Rain jumped in…
GUILTIEST ADDITION:
Spartacus. One of my favorites, even though I’m not sure it belongs on the list at all from an artistic standpoint.
BIGGEST SURPRISE OMMISION:
I thought Gladiator was a lock to join the list.
BIGGEST RELIEF:
That Gladiator wasn’t in the top 10, something I feared as we got closer and I didn’t see it yet. Even bigger relief – that Scarface didn’t ride it’s wave of thug popularity into the list.
Your thoughts?
Joe
June 21st, 2007 at 8:45 am
Where in the heck was Dr Zhivago?
June 21st, 2007 at 8:54 am
Glad that the Marx Brothers made the list (twice!), but where in the world was Dr. Zhivago?
June 21st, 2007 at 8:55 am
I’m glad that the Marx Brothers made the list (twice), but where in the world was Dr. Zhivago?
June 21st, 2007 at 9:49 am
Why is it that such films as Titanic get in there, but Fargo and Amadeus don’t? Now, that’s just terrible. Sure, Titanic had a greater impact on the world then Fargo and Amadeus did, but that doesn’t mean it’s better. Infact, it is much worse. For one, Titanic’s script didn’t even get nominated for an Oscar, while Amadeus’ and Fargo’s both won! I can understand how hard it is to make a list of the 100 best films, but I think AFI really failed this time. They went with more commercial films and didn’t go outside the system and try to really find the best films.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:08 am
The Exorcist, Patton and Young Frankenstein are the biggest snubs in my opinion. Those movies are perfect. Check out the “Facts” section, I found a mistake. They state that DeNiro and Stewart were the only two actors with 5 films on the list. Harrison Ford (Raiders, Star Wars, Apocalypse Now, American Grafitti & Blade Runner) and Duvall (Godfathers I&II, Apocalypse Now, To Kill a Mockingbird & MASH). Not all starring roles, but GFII was not a starring role for DeNiro either.
June 21st, 2007 at 2:48 pm
First off 7 movies that should easily be on the list…
1. The Exorcist
2. The Shining
3. Hoosiers
4. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
5. Alien
6. Seven
7. Fight Club
There is no argument that can be made by any sane person that at least a couple of these films could replace any “silent” movie from the 30’s on the list.
Secondly what makes Citizen Kane better than The Godfather?
And thirdly Pulp Fiction at 95 is the biggest crock of shit I’ve seen in these lists
June 21st, 2007 at 6:43 pm
The AFI has become a joke. Perhaps we should amend the title with “…or 85 or so great films plus bad, popular films directed by former AFI alumni and/or faculty.” Or, “85 great films plus 15 inexplicably popular yet crappy films.” The Sound of Music? West Side Story? FORREST GUMP? TITANIC? These were not great films–they were just expensive, manipulative, shallow films with big special effects and fraudulent emotions.
It amazes me that brilliant directors like Hal Ashby, Brian de Palma and Robert Altman are eschewed for a true hack like Stanley Kubrick, who was nothing more than a flashy, brilliant cinematographer, not a director (Pauline Kael was right on the nose when she said that the only memorable character in any of his films was a computer).
Notice that David Lynch is conspicuously absent from the list–its much easier to get effusive about a Clint Eastwood film (he’s America’s treasure, which should tell you something about America), in which the entire narrative and all its themes are diagrammed out for you like a Saturday Morning Serial–you gotta be a linear thinker to make this list, and Lynch is just too artsy-fartsy for these simple folk.
The AFI is training the filmmakers of today–this should explain very clearly why American films for God knows how many years have simply been formulaic crap.
At least they got Singing in the Rain in its rightful place, although I’d rather watch it than Casablanca or Raging Bull any day.
June 21st, 2007 at 6:47 pm
I just don’t get the fascination with Citizen Kane. Granted, it is a good story, but a movie that stands the test of time??? The Godfather will always have my heart as the best film. And how could a fantastic coming of age movie like My Fair Lady not make the list? I can watch that over and over and still enjoy it. Even my boyfriend, who HATES musicals, loved it! And I agree about a earlier comment regarding Titanic. I just don’t see it. I have watched it a few times but certainly don’t have any interest in watching it again and again, like My Fair Lady…
But to end on a good note, it was GREAT to see Shawshenk Redemption on this list. This movie is a perfect example of a film that did not do well at the box office but has had excellent staying power through word of mouth. It is a great story, great filming, and pure classic film.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:13 am
The AFI produced the top 100 movies buy polling the expects/critics of the films industry. Well they must be some really finicky individuals. In the list 6 films dropped more than 20 spots (THE AFRICAN QUEEN, BEN-HUR, A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI, BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID, THE FRENCH CONNECTION). It is difficult to accept a film like The African Queen ranked 17 in 1997 dropping 48 places in 2007. At the other extreme, 9 films moved up more then 20 places in 2007. Four movies in particular (VERTIGO, CITY LIGHTS, THE SEARCHERS, THE GENERAL) jumped more than 50 spots. One, The General, did not even make the top 100 in 1997, but was named the 18th best film in 2007. What, did they just forgot about this film in 1997. If so, then it shouldn’t deserve to be on the list let alone in the top 20. Likewise, DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (39 in 1997) and THE BIRTH OF A NATION (44 in 1997) were left out of the top 100. Can anyone explain that? Sorry, but I think your expects went to sleep half way through the judging process.
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:24 am
I agree that Citizen Kane is the greatest movie ever made. The other selections in the top 10 from 1997 were worthy of their spot. In the new 2007 list, the AFI took out On The Waterfront and The Graduate from the original 1997 list. This was shocking to me since they both should have remained where they were. Replacing them with Raging Bull and Vertigo is an understatement from the AFI, in my opinion. I know that I’ve haven’t seen The Graduate, but it is one of thoese movies that remains a classic and should have stayed in the top 10 or been replaced by City Lights. I appreciated the origianl 1997 list of movies from the AFI, this new this removed Fargo, Doctor Zhivago, From Here to Eternity and others that in my opinion should have received a second look from the AFI.
June 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 am
Welles’ “1952 Cannes Film Festival Winning masterpiece, “Othello” has been widely debated as, (and in my own personal opinion,) George Orson Welles’ greatest film…
June 24th, 2007 at 10:59 am
Anyone who says that VERTIGO is too high on the list needs to take a Film 101 course. At position 9 VERTIGO is not high enough. Should be in the top 5. A great film that requires multiple viewings in order to “get it”. I urge those who have only seen VERTIGO once to give it another try. With each viewing it reveals more of itself.
Greatest shock. No DOCTOR ZHIVAGO, REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE, HIS GIRL FRIDAY, FRANKENSTEIN or THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, MY FAIR LADY, THE THIN MAN, THE PALM BEACH STORY, NOTORIOUS, BARRY LYNDON, FORBIDDEN PLANET, INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (1956 version), PINNOCHIO (Disney version) and ALIEN.
Which should have been left off: PULP FICTION, FORREST GUMP, TOY STORY, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, SOUND OF MUSIC, ROCKY, THE WILD BUNCH, YANKEE DOODLE DANDY.
Overall I prefer the latest list over the one 10 years ago but I would have included 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY in the top 10 and bumped up NORTH BY NORTHWEST, ALL ABOUT EVE, KING KONG and THE AFRICAN QUEEN to higher positions.
June 24th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
The Departed, Gangs of New York, and The Aviator surely belong on the list if Lord of the Rings and The Sixth Sense can make it. Traffic was innovative in its episodic treatment of the illegal drug industry and its close ties to our political bureacracy. Why not L.A. Confidential, the film that should’ve won best picture in ‘97? Let’s forget for a moment the popcorn movies that are now selling themselves as high art and trace our steps back to the films that were high art all along.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:49 pm
I think this is how it should have stayed. I like Gone With the WInd at #4 not #6.
December 2nd, 2007 at 7:53 pm
The list is pretty I have only a few complaints about it. Why is Mary Poppins not on the list? In my opinion it is way better than Toy Story even though Toy Story is a great movie. I also think that Ridley Scott’s classic film Alien should be on the list it is in my opinion a lot better than Titanic.
February 1st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
I am wondering, Why on earth hasn’t “THE BAD AND THE BEAUTIFUL” ever been nominated for a spot on the top 100.
It is in it’s simplicity one of THE best movies about making movies of all time.