10 Burning Questions: WITCH HUNT
By John Wildman
AFI FEST Daily News Staff
DON HARDY & DANA NACHMAN (WITCH HUNT)
In the documentary world, there are films that are interesting, fascinating, and have wonderfully original viewpoints on a world we only thought we knew…The film WITCH HUNT is exactly such a film.
The journalistic directing team of Don Hardy and Dana Nachman have taken a painstaking and heartfelt look at a travesty of justice that took place in Bakersfield more than twenty years ago, when Kern County District Attorney wrongly prosecuted countless families for child molestation – putting several of them away for 15 to 20 years.
Think about that for a moment. Twenty years of your life lost, all because someone was in control of a system that was horrifically corrupt.
That alone should be enough to inspire theater-goers to load their cars with the latest in torch-and-pitchfork-technology and make the drive to Bakersfield. However, the remarkable peace that victims like John Stoll have with the cards they’ve been dealt forces you to pause and realize that those instincts are the very thing that started their horrible nightmare in the first place.
WITCH HUNT
7:10 p.m. Sunday, November 2 @ ArcLight 8
3:15 p.m. Monday, November 3 @ ArcLight 8
Hardy, Nachman and many of the subjects of the documentary will be in attendance and take part in a Q&A after the screenings.
Don – The story began with a call to the Northern California Innocence Project. They were working on the case of John Stoll and we followed his case for our day job as television journalists. When John was exonerated, he told us about the dozens of other people just like him that were convicted of similar crimes and served lengthy prison sentences. We couldn’t believe something like this could happen in our country, our state, and we had to look deeper. We found out that John was right on the money and we were compelled to tell the story. It was time to set the record straight.
Dana – In our careers to date we were able to tell many short – two to three minute stories. After we learned that John’s story was way bigger than just one man, we knew we could only scratch the surface with regular news stories. That’s why we wanted to make a documentary. With that said, there wasn’t really one day that we decided to do a documentary. We just started doing what we do; we would call people to see if they would do interviews with us, then we would sit down and just talk to them. Once that happened, we couldn’t help but put it together into a documentary.
2 The officials responsible for erroneously putting all of these people in jail either remain in those same jobs or have been promoted despite being blatantly incompetent. How does that happen?
Don – We’re not lawyers, but what we’ve been told is that it’s extremely difficult to prosecute elected officials. These cases were investigated by the Attorney General of California, and while he wrote a detailed report that outlined many of the numerous problems with the cases, many of the convicted still sat in prison for years. The question that stumps me the most is why do these officials continue to get re-elected?
Dana – I agree with Don. I think that people need to be informed when they vote and also take it very seriously when they are called to serve on juries. We all have the power to make a difference in situations like this. We are all powerful!
3 How did Sean Penn come on board for the project?
Don – Luck and persistence.
Dana – We have become friendly with a man who was in a television documentary that we made. He happens to be friends with Sean Penn. One day he told Mr. Penn about our project. He saw a glimmer in his eye, that glimmer kept us going for the two years that it took us to get a copy of the film in his hands.
4 Was it difficult to put a lot of energy into presenting the side of people like Kern County District Attorney, Ed Jagels?
Don – It was difficult because he has never spoken about these cases. He refused numerous requests by us for an interview.
Dana – We always want to try and get both sides of the story, so it wasn’t difficult, it is just part of the job.
5 What was the biggest lesson for the two of you personally investigating this story and learning about the people involved?
Don – Giving each story enough time. We wanted to keep the time down to a manageable length…91 minutes is the current runtime.
Dana – We’ve never done a project that has taken so long – 4 years. It’s amazing how close you become with the people in the film. This is sort of our M.O., becoming friendly with people in our projects, but this time is different because of the time it took and the trust that they had in it. In many ways, they’re like family now.
6 How did the directing dynamic work between the two of you?
Don – We break up the responsibility pretty evenly, but our busiest times of production are different. Dana does most of the pre-production and I do most of the editing. It’s good though. We generally aren’t stressed out at the same time.
Dana – It’s really good to have someone to bounce all ideas off of. We have different individual strengths, but we tend to like the same things. I think we also like to impress each other. I like to come up with a good idea or write something clever so that Don is proud, and I think he feels the same way when he sends me edited scenes.
7 What recent documentaries have made an impact on you?
Don – THE THIN BLUE LINE, AMERICAN DREAM, MANDA BALA, CAPTURING THE FRIEDMANS
Dana – MY KID COULD PAINT THAT, SPELLBOUND, MURDERBALL
8 What is the best thing about having your film at AFI FEST
Don – It’s a great festival in the heart of LA. You can’t beat that. Also, our story is set just up the road in Bakersfield and many of the people whose stories are featured in the film will be here to be part of the premiere.
Dana – We’ve never screened our movie in this country before and we’re fiercely patriotic, so we are very proud to be here and presenting our film. And to be in Hollywood, at the heart of the film world is such a thrill. The AFI programmers came up to Don and I just minutes after our world premiere to tell us how much the film moved them. That meant the world to us, we won’t forget it.
9 What’s up next in Hardy’s and Nachman’s pursuit of cinematic justice?
Don – Keep pushing this film forward. It’s all about getting people to see the film.
Dana – We will continue to work closely with the Northern California Innocence Project… we already feel like we are on staff there.
10 Popcorn or candy?
Don – Popcorn
Dana – Both









We lived in Bakersfield from 1981 to 1993. Six years ago(2003)our daughter accused us (her parents) and a sibling of childhood sexual abuse during our years in Bakersfield
I suppose information about these cases has been pretty widely known and may have influenced her and her counselors?
I was unaware of the accusations and convictions in Bakersfield until just now. Were there a lot of other cases?
Our daughter has not spoken to her sibling in six years, and not to us in over three years. Counselors who help their clients “recover” false memories should be the ones who go to prison.
Thanks for bringing this to the public’s attention.
I am a law student at a university in Massachusetts and I am currently watching a repeat of the film. This may or may not have been mentioned but this is a remarkedly similiar story to the Fells Acre Day Care case especially the parts about the investigations of the satanic rituals. There was overwhelming evidence that the accused were innocent but nobody seemed to care. In fact after this case the law was changed in regards to interviewing children. This case is so overlooked that the prosecutor of that case is now our illustrious Attorney General, how’s that for corruption……
I saw WITCHHUNT last night by accident on MSNBC … it was an incredible look at the realities of the abuse and fraud by government officials for the sake of power and control and building bureaucracies. Our local prosecutor (soon to run for Governor of MN) has such arrogance she said “people trust prosecutors” — this is the kind of bubble they live in … thanks for exposing this … these same things are happening in family court and child support court across the United States … we fight in MN to expose the problems … but this film does such an incredible job … how do we get AMERIKA TO WATCH THIS?
to answer june’s question. 26 parents were falsely imprisoned in Bakersfield during that “witchhunt.” 2 of them passed away while in prison. The rest of the cases eventually were overturned after having spent nearly 20 years behind bars all because of a political scheme and a cover-up for what was really going on which is even more sick. Look up “Kern County’s Monstrous D.A.” and read about the assistant district attorney who was shot and killed by the sherriff for having had an 11 year relationship with his son Lance. There is one poor foster child of the Bakersfield system who was basically framed and used in all of this who remains in prison, trying to reach the public to have his story told. His story is something else. The corruption continues throughout in family court and in the child support division as well. They have an efficient system of conveniently making the information unattainable to you while they steal your child support. Just change a few numbers around, and voila!! You’re out 40 grand and can’t prove it. what a scam. I love the mission statement though making their claims to be “all about making sure the children get the support they need.” It’s a joke.. The children are exploited, welfare mothers are targeted, and all the agencies work together to insure that nothing gets out. they even target victims of domestic violence. wonder where all those federal funds are really going? expose it all!!!!
I am looking for the report that was mentioned in the film. It is The Report on the Kern County Child Abuse Investigation- Office of the Attorney General – Division of Law Enforcement- Bureau of Investigation by John K. Van de Kamp Attorney General State of California. I believe it was dated sometime around Sept. 1986. There is a similar situation going on in my life that has resulted in the theft of my youngest child Stephani Lee. I feeel that the DA in Kern County has simply changed his M.O. and is still practicing that same illegal behavior. I am trying to set foundation for a case against him that may result in actual jail time for him. If anyone knows how I can obtain this report, please contact me at juanita_hunt@yahoo.com. I would greatly appreciate it. MY LIFE AND THE LIFE OF MY DAUGHTER ARE AT STAKE WITH THIS MAN STILL IN CONTROL.
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